WEBVTT 00:10.390 --> 00:14.130 Men always talk about how "women are the weaker sex," right? 00:14.130 --> 00:15.070 Quote. 00:15.070 --> 00:17.630 And they say, “Oh, they can't handle the weight lifting 00:17.630 --> 00:19.240 or they'll hurt themselves." 00:19.240 --> 00:23.770 But like in our job description, we're only supposed to lift 25 pounds. 00:23.770 --> 00:26.710 And there's a specialized trade called riggers, which do most 00:26.710 --> 00:28.470 of the heavy lifting for us. 00:28.470 --> 00:32.770 And if there is heavy lifting, I think women have to do what I call is 00:32.770 --> 00:34.230 work smart, you know. 00:34.230 --> 00:38.080 Instead of actually lifting it, maybe think about how you can make 00:38.080 --> 00:39.490 the job easier. 00:39.490 --> 00:43.080 Ask for help if you need to, because it's not only women who need help, 00:43.080 --> 00:45.080 but men that also need help. 00:45.080 --> 00:51.150 And if a job is so terribly big that you can't physically do it yourself, 00:51.150 --> 00:54.450 I think there’re ways that women can contribute to a job. 00:54.450 --> 00:56.450 For example; give the lead- 00:56.450 --> 01:00.510 give the direction on how the job can go easier. 01:00.510 --> 01:04.920 Give the theoretical background behind the job, that kind of thing. 01:04.920 --> 01:07.800 And there're ways to compensate for that and I don't think strength 01:07.800 --> 01:09.550 is really a big issue. 01:09.550 --> 01:10.690 You know, should be a big issue. 01:10.690 --> 01:12.200 (Chris Conybeare) Well, you know, I was thinking 01:12.200 --> 01:15.130 about this earlier, when we talked a little bit before we started here, 01:15.130 --> 01:19.640 about the fact that during World War II, the shipyards were pretty much run 01:19.640 --> 01:20.470 by women. 01:20.470 --> 01:22.720 Do people have had forgotten that? 01:22.720 --> 01:24.750 (Cindy Pierson) Not at all, not at all. 01:24.750 --> 01:28.960 In fact, we are developing a very elaborate photo display 01:28.960 --> 01:32.400 at the Arizona War Memorial Museum 01:32.400 --> 01:34.610 on the Women War Workers 01:34.610 --> 01:36.610 during World War II. 01:36.610 --> 01:44.520 And what it is is a gigantic photos of the women working as riveters, 01:44.520 --> 01:50.570 pipe fitters, machinists, rubber workers, that type of thing. 01:50.570 --> 01:54.840 And it's really- unfortunately when the men went out to war 01:54.840 --> 02:01.400 the women took over their jobs and they did a darn good job at it. 02:01.400 --> 02:07.000 And when they came back home, the women were sent back to the kitchens. 02:07.000 --> 02:11.800 But we still have a lot of women working in the skilled trades area. 02:11.800 --> 02:14.000 Charlene, does it get lonely out there? 02:14.000 --> 02:16.920 How many women are there at the shipyard or where you work? 02:16.920 --> 02:18.590 Are there any other women there? 02:18.590 --> 02:21.520 I think Cindy has the statistics on the number of women there. 02:21.520 --> 02:23.150 But it does get lonely. 02:23.150 --> 02:25.350 There are not that many women for me to talk to. 02:25.350 --> 02:30.200 But over the years I think largely because of the recruitment, 02:30.200 --> 02:32.720 there are more women on the waterfront. 02:32.720 --> 02:38.280 And I think it's been a very good, very good development, 02:38.280 --> 02:42.170 because it's changed the attitudes of the men towards women in the workforce. 02:42.170 --> 02:47.310 And they can see that women can handle the job and that they are responsible, 02:47.310 --> 02:50.640 they are smart enough, and they are strong enough to do it. 02:50.640 --> 02:52.390 (Chris Conybeare) Yeah, I was going to say there are some 02:52.390 --> 02:54.130 men who can't lift everything too, right? 02:54.130 --> 02:55.330 (Charlene Nakamura) Right. 02:55.330 --> 02:58.450 (Chris Conybeare) Stanley, what kind of jobs are women 02:58.450 --> 03:01.430 holding now in terms of some of the skilled trades that you deal with? 03:01.430 --> 03:04.330 Well we have women in the carpentry field. 03:04.330 --> 03:08.530 We have them in the Operating Engineers, heavy equipment operator type.