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You also brought up statehood again.

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And I was wondering,
how would you assess

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the Bulletin's relationship
with Governor Stainback?

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Stainback was very anti-statehood,
so what kind of treatment

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did the Bulletin give him?

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Oh, that was a very funny
and very complicated relationship.

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And I was kind of the Star-Bulletin's
point man for some parts of it.

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Basically, Farrington was
a Republican delegate

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and the administration
in Washington was Democratic.

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Harry Truman was the president

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and Julius Krug was
the secretary of the interior.

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So, they didn't really turn
to the Republican delegate to ask

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whom they should appoint as governor.

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But I think when they made selections,
they kind of cleared them

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with the delegate, at least,
to see how he felt.

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And Stainback was appointed
during the war,

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when he and the Star-Bulletin
really shared a common concern

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in opposition to military rule in Hawaiʻi.

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They both were very much opposed
to military rule

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and made common cause there.

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But after the war, then statehood
moved back to the forefront as an issue.

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And Stainback's background was such
that he was very kānalua,

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uncertain about statehood.

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I think secretly he was opposed to it.

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But he was put in a funny position
in that Farrington, the delegate,

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went to the interior department...